The Dark Side of the K Plant with Special Guests! McCray Case Updates #justice4von #dremccray



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  1. I was so lucky to have found kratom 4 years ago! I was in so much pain because doctors had drastically cut prescription medications even for people who legitimately receive them. I was told about a natural plant with very few side effects that could help. I really didn’t hold much hope because I had taken supplements before but got little relief from them. So I gave this little plant a try and low and behold my life was livable again!!!!! The pain wasn’t gone but was very manageable with no side effects. The bottom line is kratom saves lives!!!!!! Stop hating on it!

  2. 39:53

    Kratom is not worse than opioids. Cindy, your son was taking adulterated kratom. I really hope you turned it over to the police so that they could test what he was actually consuming. They don't test for phenibut or ISO. Do a quick internet search asking if phenibut is tested for. YouTube won't let me share links for some reason.

    The FDA is refusing to do their job and therefore allowing more people to die as a result. We've sent them names and websites of companies making health claims and possibly adulterating their products and they ignore us and NEVER follow up to even give warning letters. It's extremely frustrating for us advocates. I believe the FDA doesn't bother because they want to see it banned so their Big Pharma friends can make it into a drug. 🤷‍♀️ What people don't understand is that when you synthesize plants, they can become addictive because the alkaloids work synergistically and have built in mechanisms so that a passion doesn't die from taking too much. Same reason people used to make opium tea. When you change it and make it into a drug it is much less safe.

  3. My response to the 38:03 minute mark

    Every organization government agency is about money and greed, ESPECIALLY the FDA. Do some research into how many people who worked for the FDA go on to work for Big Pharma. It's disgusting and should be illegal.

  4. 🚨Hey everyone, hopefully everyone see’s this, I have gotten ALOT of emails and I can’t possibly have everyone on so I did it in order. I have 3 people coming on and at the end of the show I can see about letting some call ins to speak about their experiences. 🚨 it’s planned for Thursday night 10pm EST

  5. Cindy's comment that because the KCPA is being passed that kratom is no longer being studied is unequivocally false. See the link I shared, and there are MANY others I can share.

  6. What is Susan even talking about? They do not ask people to make up accounts to send out emails. That has never happened. I'm not sure where she's getting her information from, but it's UNTRUE.

  7. The reason kratom didn't get banned in 2016 is because the consumers showed up with over 23,000 comments to the Federal Register and another 100k+ in a petition. The AKA helps to educate Lawmakers and give them the science and facts. It's sad that people don't seem to understand that. The DEA had never seem anything like it before.

  8. You can in fact ask us advocates questions. I am asked questions all the time, and I'm always honest. I had a friend reach out to me because her friend wanted information. My advice was for her to try other alternatives first because she is on medication and I'm not trying to see someone die from mixing their medications with kratom. I don't know what advocates Cindy has been talking to, but the majority of us are more than happy to answer questions and will acknowledge that mixing kratom with other substance(just like alcohol!) can be fatal. The problem lies in the fact the same enzymes are needed to process the substances, so in laymens terms, it can increase the amount of a substance in your body, thereby causing toxicity.

  9. * Please do not mention any names, call people names, or share anyone's personal info in my comment section, I will be doing live from the pro kratom angle and there is no need to be hateful or make attacking comments. This is simply their own personal struggles and story. My guests are entitled to their feelings, they have lost their children which is a HORROR and something nobody should EVER have to go through. I could never imagine how they must feel. It's ok to have different opinions on things and even if you do not agree you can still respect their opinions. I have no problems with anyone respectfully sharing their experiences with Kratom, I personally would love to hear from you as I am on the outside looking in and interested in the subject but please be respectful of my guests. *

  10. Many people have died from K, many more will continue to die from it because of how highly addictive it is. If you call a grieving mother a liar you have to realize how addicted you are to k to have no empathy. I feel for your families as you are already gone from k.

  11. For all the hateful people on here shame on you. Whatever happened to be able to agree to disagree. Both sides should be able to tell there stories. It appears one side has some anger issues and name calling , slinging dirt or whatever it takes .. Maybe there are reasons why they can’t show toxicology reports . You all are just the general public/ consumers of Kratom . Do you specialize in the medical field? Are you medical examiner’s? Why do you need to know where there children purchased the product? Actually it’s none of your business . These people lost there children . You may not have experienced a loss of a child , show some empathy.. Or is this beneath you! Go and do you advocating elsewhere. You do not know what these women have or have not for science. Everyone always assumes ..

  12. I'm thankful God put kratom in my life. Kratom literally saved my life and millions of others lives.
    I was a wreck an awful alcoholic depressed for years suicidal you name it constantly fd up and fing everything in my life up.
    Found kratom 3 years ago and and am finally sober happy and great mother and daughter now.
    I finally have a great life and have found what makes me happy in life.
    Pharma pills weren't helping me they were literally killing me.
    I had reactions and awful side effects from meds drs prescribed me.
    Several times almost died in hospital for days many times all bc of meds that never actually helped me at all.
    I'm so grateful to God for a plant that changed everything for me.
    I'm no longer sick depressed and an alcoholic.
    Kratom saves millions of lives.
    Anyone wanting it banned should be ashamed of themselves
    They're literally wishing death on MILLIONS of people who finally are happy and productive in life.
    Do some real research stop blaming a plant.
    There aren't any deaths from this plant.

  13. I recently underwent a hospital stay to determine if the seizures that I have had far longer than I ever knew about kratom and I T0OK IN WHILE IN THE HOSPITAL, ON VIDEO AND WITH A MICROPHONE RECORDING EVERYTHING.  A WEEK OF INPATIENT TESTING.  NO HIDING KRATOM AS I TOOK IT.  IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT HAD NO NEGATIVE IMPACT/EFFECTS ON MY BRAIN, BREATHING AND IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY SEIZURES. 
    After 15 plus years of seriously critical levels and lab results , my labs for the last 4 years … since I began kratom; are finally in the low normal range.  Still low, but not critical. 
    I'm still in serious condition, but I don't pray and beg for just a minute of no pain.  I don't beg and plead for an end. As I said, I do still have some very bad days; but I have far more good, enjoyable days than not. I have been able to get out of the house. I have gone swimming.  I was able to camp with family for a evening.  I have attended 2 high-school graduations and a Jr high school graduation; all things that I never even imagined that I would be alive to even see pictures of. 

    Kratom has helped me in far more ways than I could ever begin to list!
    http://www.americankratom.org

  14. I am absolutely positive that if it weren't for kratom, I wouldn't be alive right now! After the 2016 guidelines were SUGGESTED and every doctor around ( ok, 90 % of them), acted as if they were law and abandoned their patients who weren't terminal cancer patients – even if a patient had been on a successful maintenance program with opioid and several decades of extremely documented medical records 0f the most painful condition known to us… no taper, no discussion, no warning or failed tests; patients were and still are abandoned by the medical professional. Some, is understandable as they were losing everything they'd worked for and their livelihoods.  Others fought for their patients and those who aren't theirs, and have had everything threatened, but they take their oaths seriously! As they should.
    I am terminal but I didn't have cancer at the time, but there is still absolutely nothing that can be done for me.  That didn't matter.  A couple hundred surgeries, amputations, pulmonary embolisms, sepsis, gangrene, multiple organ failure and more. I tried to do it on my own, and utilized self hypnosis, visual imagery, and countless years of therapy.  After 40 years and then being abandoned by the medical profession, and being in this position because of medical malpractice; I lost all hope.  No quality of life and my condition was dragging my loved ones through hell as they sat by and helpless to do anything to help. I learned about kratom and after 7 months of research, talking about it to everyone I knew- INCLUDING MY MEDICAL TEAM, I ordered some.  After laughing at it, mocking it and no faith in it whatsoever. I came from the medical school/research field and definitely held no belief in dietary supplements or natural foods for helping people with things other than inflammation.
    I do not quit anything.  I have fought for my life with everything I have for decades. If I was looking for a quick way out, I would have done it years earlier.  But I have been on my deathbed far too many times and was bedridden for over 10 years.  I had gotten to the point where I couldn't do anything for myself and I was tired.  After making plans and putting everything in place. Not letting ANYONE know about them,I figured I had nothing to lose by trying it.  I have a wonderful man who loves me and has taken very good care of me.  I have a beautiful daughter and 3 of the most beautiful grandchildren that anyone could ask for. 
    I love life
    I love people.
    But I was tired and I had lost all hope

    I bought some and waited for it to arrive but it was late.  I had figured that it was just a scam anyway. 
    I was on my way out the door and going to put a end to it all
    But what happened was ; IT WORKED.  IT HELPED ME WITH THE UNRELENTING PAIN OF FULL BODY CRPS AND ORGAN INVOLVEMENT.  14 BOUTS OF OSTEOMYELITIS, SEVERE OSTEOPOROSIS AND A LIFE OF MISERY FROM THE PAIN. I DIDN'T WANT TO DIE!!! Especially at my own hands.  It was against everything I believed in. 
    But what I found through kratom was- HOPE
    HELP FROM THE DEPRESSION
    A MEANS OF BEING ABLE TO ONCE AGAIN PARTICIPATE IN LIFE.

    YES!! I still have bad days. Some of which I don't know how I can get through it
    NO! There is no reprieve from the burning stabbing sharp shooting electrical jolts that feel as if I am being electrocuted from the inside out and my tissues are being seared together. But on the days in-between the flares.. KRATOM HAS GIVEN ME MY LIFE BACK.
    I STILL CAN'T DO MUCH. BUT I CAN DO ENOUGH! I LAUGH AND SMILE SINCERELY
    I HAVE PEOPLE BACK IN MY LIFE WHO HAD WALKED OUT OF IT.

    I HAVE HOPE!

    Your incessant negative and false articles are disturbing and because of the false, smear campaign by your articles and other agencies- people who are looking to get high and determined to do so,  try to use it, and try to mix it with lethal amounts of already deadly substances.  The failed drug war is no place for kratom because millions of people are staying OFF OF AND AWAY FROM THEM through kratom.
    Pure unadulterated kratom leaf, used in conjunction with the KRATOM CONSUMER PROTECTION ACT, ADEQUATE TESTING AND AGE RESTRICTIONS AND COMMON SENSE IS SAVING LIVES AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO IF YOU ARE NOT ADULTERATING IT, AREN'T SHOT IN THE CHEST WITH IT IN YOUR ROOM FOR A RIDICULOUS DEATH CONCLUSION.  OR 8F YOU DON'T MIX IT WITH TOXIC SUBSTANCES LIKE COCAINE, METH, HEROIN, FENTYNAL OR OTHER SUBSTANCES SUCH AS THOSE… IT IS A VERY SIMPLE HELPFUL FOOD PRODUCT. 
    People need to use their heads and realize that there are some who just want to get high.  Some can't help themselves and others are looking for a way to forget traumatic events in their lives. Our Veterans are another whole set of people who have been forgotten, suffering from PTSD, and multiple injuries.

  15. I am an Army veteran who injured my back on AD. I've since been diagnosed with spinal cord compression (cervical stenosis with myelopathy) along with nerve root compression (radiculopathy) and other painful health issues. The spinal cord compression was not caught early enough so it has caused some permanent damage and the nerve compression causes significant pain. I had surgery in March of 2018 in order to avoid becoming a quadriplegic and will require another surgery in the future for another problematic level of my cervical spinal cord. In the spring of 2017, I was on the edge looking down. I could not see living with the pain and limitations I was suffering from for another 10 years or more. I have lived with significant pain since 2006. The pain, along with depression and anxiety was causing me to seriously consider suicide. Just when I was about to give up, over the course of two days, I kept seeing people mention Kratom in one of my support groups. They discussed how it had helped to ease their pain. I decided to give it a try because at this point I felt I had nothing to lose. Since then I am able to be a mother, fiance, sister, and friend again. No, I am not made perfect by Kratom, but I have some quality of life back and no longer want to end my life. It has also helped ease my depression and anxiety and I am in better moods as a result. Kratom has changed my life for the better and allowed me enough relief from pain, anxiety, and depression to want to continue living. It has allowed me to be able to play a more active role in my life, rather than watching my life completely pass me by. Kratom has made this possible.

  16. Hi there, I’m here to weigh in on your live. Kratom is not negative across the board. We advocates want the truth. We do not deny anyone’s experience. We ask you to not deny ours as well.

  17. I am almost certain that if it wasn’t for kratom, I would be dead. About 3 years ago I was introduced to it but didn’t fully commit until 4.29.20. I hadn’t realized how much it has improved my life until the other day. I was in a situation where I needed cash and I went into my wallet and had $43. That NEVER would have happened before kratom. The other morning I was so wrapped up with life that I forgot to even take it. I use it for my chronic pain. Degenerative disk disease, fibromyalgia, endometriosis, arthritis & messed up knees. I wouldn’t even be able to walk with the pain levels I have sometimes. I kept hearing about people saying it made you have withdrawals so I purposely stopped. Cold turkey. Only thing I noticed was my pain levels. I’ve cold turkey stopped a few times just to take a break. I’ve never chased a high with it, I’ve never done half of the things I used to do when I was in my pain pill addiction. I honestly think it all boils down to respect. Respect the plant and the plant will respect you. It frightens me to think about the negative campaign that seems to be rising against it. It saved my life. 🕊♥️

  18. Personal stories does not mean that it applies to everyone. Sharing their personal stories is fine. Their experiences don’t decide what everyone’s will be.
    I’ve used Kratom for almost 11 years now, never had a single problem. I get regular blood work and check ups, healthy as can be. I’ve since helped many other people discover the benefits of Kratom and it has helped their lives, too.
    Kratom was involved in this case, but Kratom had nothing to do with the issues in this case.

    I would be more than happy to discuss my personal experience and the positive stories I’ve been apart of with you anytime.

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